Does Mr. Surfacer have to be sanded within a certain amount of time like gap filling glues that can dry harder than the plastic? I don't suffer from insanityI enjoy every minute of it! Mr Surfacer 1500 Spray, Black Similar to the very popular Mr Surfacer 1500 brush on, the 1500 spr.. 10.99 Add to . I have read that if you go back over the Mr Surfacer with the Levelling Thinners it will smooth the Mr Surfacer even more. Mr Finishing Surfacer 1500 grey in a can is my go to primer for all the masters we get in and it can really sort out lines on 3D stuff with a bit of practice. thanks to all for the replies, looks like I'll have to experiment with a 50/50 mix of the surfacer and the Mr Levelling thinner and see what the results are. The surface now has great 'bite' for paint application and shows any errors that can be addressed before final paint application layers Look to the surface texture that is also applied to the "Priest's front face" near the lights as an example of what can be achieved Mr. Surfacer 500is much thinner than this mixture I am proposing for readers to try but can be used directly on top of this ad hoc "green stuff" slurry. The same thing if you put it on too thin, it shrinks up and requires another application. . Should be skim milk consistency or even a little thinner. That doesn't sound right for the 500. Think the secret is that you really have to thin the paints to about 60:40 thinner to paint. My wife, my cat, models, ju jitsu, triathlonsnot necessarily in that order. I put some on about a half hour ago and it looks cured. Mr. Surfacer #1000 (gray): Comes in a bottle or spray can. Thin with Mr Color Thinner or Mr color Levelling Thinner and apply with an airbrush for best results. Needs to be thinned significantly. There is no time limit that you have to observe when sanding Mr. Surfacer other than to let it dry first. Hey guysunder normal conditions (ie 60F), can I expect Mr. Surfacer 500 to dry in around an hours or so time or is the period of time shorter? 5 minutes, 10 minutes?? It worked well under the ghost grey for my F-15 but less well under the camouflage colours for the Mig-23. Supplied in a 40ml jar, Mr. Surfacer 1500 can be used straight from the jar using a spotter paintbrush, cotton swab/bud (que tip) or toothpick for filling in bumps, scratches and pits. i think we're a little short on the bananna oil here in the states 500 coarser in grit than is 1000 or than is 1200 smaller the number the coarser the finish as in sandpaper nomenclature. Quote Bell209 Glue Required Members 44 posts I leave all putty, including Mr. Surfacer, on for about 45 min - 1 hr. hey swanny, I recently got myself a bottle of gunze liquid (it says "dissolved") putty along with somere-supplies forbase white 1000 (mr surfacer in white =P) have you ever tried those or know any comparison between that and the mr surfacer 500? 0000000656 00000 n At first it might seem you have put too much on but it cures and 'reduces' a lot. before sanding. Works great but I make sure I spray it on in a light coat, then a heaver wet coat. 0000001210 00000 n PSSSST AlanWant to show us some of this Mr Surfacer work in a Tips article with some photos? Visit the GSI Creos Store. It is great for small surface problems. Great "how to" article Seor Swanny, but I've got a question for you. 4 replies. Thank you for the great tip! Looking at a new jar of 1500 black it seems quite thin already. You can color it with paint as well to derive different undercoat or primer colors to chip through the overlying paint to achieve great weathering looks for your paint. How long should you let Mr. Surfacer (grade 500) dry before sanding? To add to what Jeff said, if you run a Q-tip saturated w/ nail polish remover (acetone based) over the putty, not only does it remove a lot of the unwanted putty, it greatly reduces drying to allowing for much quicker sanding. Apply it in very thin coats. Hey everyone, in this video I'm going to show you how I thin my paints and primer particularly the Mr. Surfacer 1500. I have found myself using Super Glue more and more. Share More sharing options. I haven't tried this yet so don't take my word for it without testing it on a scrapper. I recommend using a mixing bottle because you can pre-mix your paint for quicker setup and mess-free pouring.I hope you'll learn something from this video and hopefully you can apply it in your work process.=====================================================You can get you own mixing bottles and other tools from our video's sponsor, Masamune Studio. Britmodeller.com We have a great online selection at the lowest prices with Fast & Free shipping on many items! And much more! ~ Jeremiah 29:11. %PDF-1.4 % Youre seeing this ad based on the products relevance to your search query. It has very low tack making it ideal for masking over painted areas. Paste as plain text instead, Clear editor. For a very smooth top finish I'd ad retarder or use levelling thinner as this give it a bit more time to lay flat before drying. By signing up you may also receive reader surveys and occasional special offers. Thanks for the work there Swanny! Paste as plain text instead, Price and other details may vary based on product size and color. Regards, It is relatively hot but I have not had a single issue with plastic melting when spraying or brushing the stuff. Trifles make perfection, but perfection is no trifle. If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens??? VALLEJO 73821 RUST TEXTURE - DIOARAMA MODEL KITT di Tokopedia Promo Pengguna Baru Cicilan 0% Kurir Instan. I leave it about an hour or even less. It seems if applied too heavy, it takes overnight to dry, and shrinks up requiring another application. Although that on first look seems a bit much. Mr Levelling Thinners is one of the least odorous and pleasant smelling cellulose thinners on the market, and I've smelled some doozies over the years I'd still recommend wearing a mask and getting plenty of ventilation on the subject if you haven't got a spray booth, but it's good stuff. I have used mr surfacer 1000 and 1200 thinned 50/50 with levelling thinner. View our, Tools, Techniques, and Reference Materials. Dries quickly and can be sanded and polished once dry. The pieces have been primed with Mr Surfacer Primer and are dry to the touch. It also seems to be cured as I used super glue atop is with no ill affects. How hot is this stuff? Cookie Notice Well, the dissolved putty is pretty much really putty with liquid cement like how people usually do ithome-made(that's how it smelled like). and our Apply in multiple layers to get the perfect finish. Maybe it has been reformulated but I don't know, it just seems like you could bond styrene with it, if you had to. Detail. Tangentally, have you tried the black 1500? I thin it idk roughly 50:50 and it sprays well. At the moment, I am practising to put on a primer coat on plastic spoons, using Mr Surfacer 1500 and the Mr Color Thinner. Let dry, then give it a coat of 1000 and a light wet sanding. Relatively shallow seams. The drying time depends on factors such as humidity and temperature, usually a ball park figure of about 20-30 minutes in between coats is ideal. Is it like the floquil paint where you have to or should use a barrier because of the hot solvent base? I really prefer the old Testors low form square liquid cement bottles (that have the brush in the jar as they do not tip over like the new tall cylindrical ones now do) and I have saved my oldjars for just this purpose built mixture. December 8, 2006 in Tools 'n' Tips. One of the reasons it's great as a . I've used the Mr. Surfacer 1000 White from the rattle cans and liked it but didn't like the control of the can. If you don't want too much smell try stynylrez, of just use a tamiya grey paint. The only time i have used a black base is for the alclad metallics. "You can't have everything--where would you put it?". After viewing product detail pages, look here to find an easy way to navigate back to pages you are interested in. 0000008369 00000 n Looking at a new jar of 1500 black it seems quite thin already. Tact is for those who lack the wit for sarcasm.--maddafinga, I've had the 1000 on my bench for a year now, and it really is fantastic stuff. $1130 ($22.60 / Fl Oz) Brand. The 'Green stuff' mixture can be made more thin with the addition of more liquid cement. GSNeil Used it a couple of times and have found a ratio of 70:30 mr surfacer to levellling thinner works well. 0000002300 00000 n Worked out pretty well for some 1/35 figures though. They carry the spray bottle of the 1200 at my lhs, but I haven't picked it up as I'm not too big on spraycans. Looks like this stuff might be pretty useful. Under $8.00. Does anyone have any tips? Once cured, neither lacquers, enamels or acrylics have reacted with the primer. I don't sand it much myself but when I do, about an hour. My preferred is Black Mr Finishing Surfacer 1500 that I use as a primer undercoat. I decided to change tack slightly this time, and sprayed one wing half with Tamiya Fine Grey primer as before, but used Mr. Surfacer 1500 Black on the . I use the levelling thinner with Mr. Hobby paints and while it smells a little it is manageable indoors, the cellulose thinner is much stronger and while I don't mind dipping a brush in it and getting the bottle top on again ASAP the idea of atomising it in a spray.. well, it's not for me thanks. Your specific problem is probably related to mixing as Triarius suggested. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. "&ndOVd4e]=N:"zNzF-=o92dY@?_y?+q-RcmreMbHzgkD7KVpN6u/RFs\K 7%U0gZEd6c,S'?C7qEG_ac9Y(. It's easy! trailer <]>> startxref 0 %%EOF 13 0 obj<>stream 1/48th Aircraft, especially Cold War era. If it was a liquid that had a tint, that would be even better. Lays down as smooth as a baby's butt . Mr. Surfacer Drying time before sanding 7466 views. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Mr Surfacer 1000 makes a great primer. Powered by Invision Community, LETS GET WET! GROUP BUILD IS NOW ON. I thought Mr. Surfacer was a primer for their acrylic paints. (250 ml) Reduce Clogs & Dry Needle Tips Made in USA by Impresa. I've been meaning to try it but I also have the stuff in rattle cans, which has been working well for me to date! Member since December 2002; From: Reno, NV; Mr. Surfacer Drying time before sanding. 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Oh no, I was saying that I assumed 500 is finer than the dissolved putty. I have this in the spray can and highly recommend it! 0000002070 00000 n Depends on how thick it is. In addition to the acetone based nail polish remover, I've found that lacquer thinner (used carefully: it can damage the plastic if you use too much) does a great job of removing excess Mr. Surfacer. As alwaysthanks for the input! You are not obligated to do so, but it does help fund these videos in hopes of bringing value to you! ROTFLMAO. It also lasts for months or years in the bottle without going bad or hardening up simply shake and use. I think it is better used to fill minor imperfections across a broad area via spray can or airbrush. This thread is archived New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast 1 2 2 comments Best t7thomass 7 yr. ago It settles relatively rapidly, and it takes a surprising amount of mixing. I have never had a problem in three years' usagewith both 500and 1000. Printed at 1/10 scale, primer was applied with airbrush. I use a 0.4 mm needle (H&S) and at around 15psi (at the compressor) but these things can vary a lot from setup to setup. Hey everyone, in this video I'm going to show you how I thin my paints and primer particularly the Mr. Surfacer 1500. I let the surfacer dry for 10 minutes and it was rock hard..could sand with no issue at all. Order Ascending; Order Descending; espins1. Real-Time Crime & Safety Alerts Amazon Subscription Boxes Top subscription . Actually now that I think about it, isn't Mr. Color Thinner (as mentioned by ThatJeffGuy above) basically lacquer thinner? "Thin as milk" 7:3 for me with Leveling thinner being the majority of the mix. As far as CA accelerator, I have never had any problems with it crazing plastic. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Will cover minor scratches and surface imperfections. Top subscription boxes right to your door, 1996-2023, Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates. I plan on we sanding for a perfect. I tried nail-polish remover once and it didn't work..must have been non-acetone based. Madda Thanx Alan - that covers it , I will definitly give the alchohol Qtip trick a try. I have tried to google and search Youtube for tips, but most are about airbrushing techniques. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Includes 6 Foot Exhaust Extension Hose, Mr. Hobby B506 Mr. Surfacer 500 Spray, GSI. I earn a small commission if you click on the link and subscribe to them or purchase the item. Also what different grade does it come in? Mr Surfacer is as the name applies a surfacer not really a filler, it's basically a heavy primer, and a surface imperfection filler such as sanding scratches, your problem might be your trying to fill too large gap. The subreddit dedicated to the hobby of plastic model kit building and painting. xb```a``"(a@ .2010E+81F `_s66R1L@l` endstream endobj 12 0 obj<> endobj 14 0 obj<> endobj 15 0 obj<>/Font<>/XObject<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageC]/ExtGState<>>> endobj 16 0 obj<> endobj 17 0 obj<> endobj 18 0 obj<> endobj 19 0 obj[/ICCBased 22 0 R] endobj 20 0 obj<> endobj 21 0 obj<>stream I'd just add some Mr Levelling thinner til it's the consistency of semi-skimmed milk. I avoid using accelerator because it usually does more harm than good, smells like it's loaded with VOC's and that's probably why it leaves its mark on any unprotected plastic. Your recently viewed items and featured recommendations. I tend to thin much like the old saying. Mr. Surfacer #1000 (white): A great base for colorful, brightly finished aircraft or cars. Mr. Surfacer 1500 is a more finer finish which will give a really smooth . Should I put 2 or 3 coats? I usually try to apply the CA and sand it out somewhere between the "still tacky" and "hard as a rock" stage. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Archived post. Very odd, root and twig, very odd indeed. Swap tips and techniques, show your latest builds/WIPs, post kit reviews and discuss the latest kits! To participate you must either login or register for an account. The Spray version of the popular Mr Surfacer 500, supplied in a 100ml spray can. erewhon1872 cellulose thinners but as I'm spraying indoors and if spraying it is anything like using it to clean brushes with the liquid thinner on them then it will stink to high heaven and I don't really think I could stand those sort of fumes. Yessir, I have used Mr. Surfacer for a long time. I don't do anything with the surfacer. I've sprinkled baking soda over CA.. Sets it right up. At the moment, I am practising to put on a primer coat on plastic spoons, using Mr Surfacer 1500 and the Mr Color Thinner. used oil of banana to remove enamel of nails, http://www.modelsforsale.com/listphotos/TM87053.jpg, http://www.alergoshop.com.br/img/pro/130/leo%20de%20banana.jpg. definitely just as funky smelling yet different than L/T .doesn't hurt the plastic either; maybe it's just. You can accelerate CA just by holding the joint over the open bottle. How to use Mr. Surfacer 500, 1000 and 1200 - a tutorial. It's still best not to sniff it though. Have seen videos where this has been used and it looks great, but cannot find anything that says how you thin it, what size airbrush needle to use or pressure to spray at. and if I still notice something while wet sanding under the light I'll use the Mr. Surfacer for the final layer. March 6, 2017 in Hints and Tips. I normally use a cotton swab soaked in Mr Color thinner 110 and rub the surfacer until I get the "fill" I want and it feathers nicely. Thanks and cheers! I paint it on with either a toothpick or a small brush I have specifically for it if you want to sand only a thin application of 500 then getting up and making a fresh pot of coffee. then collecting the mail. visiting the jon. then getting the coffee the milk.. the sugar (if you like it sweet) then meadering back to the bench.. having a look at it.. and then start the sanding. if it has shrunk into the scratch or hole that required filling then sometime a second or third application is required before sanding. but mostly everything that I need to repair is sanded the same day within an hour or so of application. just recently I have found the Laquer thinner I have always been looking for, so I will try to spray it (diluted of course with the above) as a base coat, then polish it out before the camo. give it a go once I started using it I couldn't stop it is great stuff and easy to apply. you can also shape it too. by using a Q-tip wetted in Isopropanol Alchohol and "buffing" a seam that has just been filled. it saves you the sanding after it dries P.s the 1000 is just a thinner version.. probably better for spray applications than the 500. the 500 has the thicker viscosity! Ive been using all of there primers for my jobs. GusMac Members 2.3k LocationRural NE Scotland 30 psi! I have an old single action Badger that is dedicated to Mr. Surfacer. It's a pain, but it works for me. When I apply too much it runs beyond the CA and can soften the surface detail,or mar paint (like in a wheel well), or un bonds small. Shawn Quote ///Mflossin Mr Surfacer 1500 thinning ratio By Dainis March 6, 2017 in Hints and Tips Dainis Members 11 Posted March 6, 2017 I have used mr surfacer 1000 and 1200 thinned 50/50 with levelling thinner. I have both the Mr Colour ordinary and levelling thinner and I think they can be used to thin this I'd assume 50/50, but would like that to be confirmed? I have gone through a couple bottles now with 100% perfect results. To add to what Jeff said, if you run a Q-tip saturated w/ nail polish remover (acetone based) over the putty, not only does it remove a lot of the unwanted putty, it greatly reduces drying to allowing for much quicker sanding. Though Mr. Surfacer was the "latest greatest" thing a few years ago I think (like Netz suggested) it is better used as a surface leveler. Head on to their website to check their premium selection of model kits, and a wide selection of paints, tools, building materials, and many more.Links:Masamune Studio: https://www.msmnstudio.com/=====================================================If you liked this video please feel free to check my playlist - Unboxing Playlist: https://bit.ly/39z6cuq - Quick Build Playlist: https://bit.ly/2JySkoS - Custom Build/Paint Video: https://bit.ly/37tipOz=====================================================Feel free to subscribe to my channel or follow me on Instagram for more content like this. Comes in either bottle or spray can. 0000011484 00000 n 0000008213 00000 n I just curious on if it is a hot solvent then when you use it as a filler, how does the plastic hold up if you brush on to much or spray for to long. Get the best deals for mr surfacer 1500 black at eBay.com. You cannot paste images directly. Thinning ratio for airbrushing seems to be 1 paint : 1.5 thinner. It dries pretty fast but requires a really good shaking then stiring prior to use to get it mixed up evenly, otherwise it'd look just fine like white glue when I apply it but will dry to look like a clear thick layer of cement with little minute chunks of broken down white putty in there.
